The DANGER In The HRC Assassination Comments

by baghdadjoe, Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:59:31 PM EST

I think many of us are a little confused about the overwhelming response to Hillary's assassination comments.  What I had not understood is that the comments Hillary Clinton made are precisely the kind that often incite assassins to action.

Background:  Senator Obama and his family have been under constant death threats since announcing his candidacy for the presidency.  In an unprecedented move, Obama was given a Secret Service detail because the threats on his person were so frequent and severe.

According to Al Giordano, Hillary's assassination comments have significantly increased the danger to Senator Obama:


Everybody - I have long followed the work of Dr. Lloyd deMause and the Institute for Psychohistory, which has, for two decades, studied the psychology of why nations go to war among other sticky societal problems.

I urge everybody who wants to flap their gums about Senator Clinton's statement today to read his chapter, The Assassination of Leaders

Messages sent like the one sent today - whether from the mouth of the original person whose fantasy flew out of her mouth - or from those decrying it, are precisely the kinds of signals that set off potential assassins.

If you think of many of the assassination attempts in the United States and the unstable mental states of the perpetrators (John Hinckley, Jr., Squeaky Fromme...) it is of the utmost irresponsibility to aid in the telegraphing of those suggestive messages to a public filled with people like that.

This is the point.  At the very least, Clinton's assassination comments are a monumental error in judgment that have put Obama and his family in even greater danger.




Tags: Hillary Clinton, Obama, Bobby Kennedy, assassination, racism (all tags)

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Obama has moved on (none / 0)

He has shown class when none was provided to him after his own gaffes.


by parahammer on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:02:10 PM EST

Oh please God save us... (2.00 / 4)

from this lunacy. I have been involved in politics for quite a while.  This is the biggest phony balony put-up job that I have ever seen run against a major national figure.  The very idea that Hillary Clinton was implying that selecting Obama for the nomination might be futile because he can be assassinated (white people can be assassinated too including 4 presidents)is so ludicrous it's embarrassing to have to respond to it. I've seen that clip 5 times now. It was an off the cuff response, not preplanned, not interjected on purpose into the conversation, it was very obvious that she was referring to the month of June in terms of politics.  I suggest you go to the New York Daily News website and listen to the zanies on there and what they have to say about this.  Maybe Hillary is really Angela Landsbury in The Manchurian Candidate come to life.  Insanity, bilge water stuff and nonsense, tabloid trash, all passing itself off as journalism.


by handsomegent on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:19:40 PM EST
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WTF is wrong with you? (none / 0)

How in the Hell did it come to someone being White or Black?

We ALL know that the Presidents that were assassinated were White, because that is the only kind of President we ever had.

We all, or we all should, know that Senator Obama has had to have extra protection and have it earlier because he is Black and has had more threats directed at him.

And what everyone is upset about isn't the fact that Senator Clinton wants someone to kill Barack Obama, but that her words seemed to say she is staying in the race because someone might assassinate Senator Obama.

And yes, we know she didn't mean it that way, but that is the way it sounded. And there are lunatics out there that may be triggered by something like that.

But you would have to have common sense and at least the average IQ to understand that.


by DaveDial on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:04:48 PM EST
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Re: WTF is wrong with you? (none / 0)

It is NOT the way it sounded at all.  What the hell are you talking about?  She didn't mention Obama's name nor even refer to him.  She was talking about a timeline towards the convention. The Obama people and their many allies in the press have succedded in conveying their fake outrage successfully.  This is absolutely disgraceful.


by handsomegent on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:15:07 AM EST
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Re: Oh please God save us... (none / 0)

"phoney baloney put-up job?" Since when does Barney Fife do political commentary? Who is this clown?

("Listen here Andy, I'm not puttin' up with no phoney-baloney put-up job like this bozo, not for one minute - and you won't either, if you know what's good for ya!")


by PositiveFreedom on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:57:05 PM EST
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Re: Oh please God save us... (none / 0)

I have no idea what you are talking about.  Are you speaking English?


by handsomegent on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:11:42 AM EST
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Re: Obama has moved on (none / 0)

boo hoo. you need to wake up and realise that Hillary was extremely light on Obama in the campaign, just wait to see what the GOP does with Obama's frequent gaffes.


by swissffun on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:28:51 PM EST
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Irish pub in San Diego? (none / 0)

That's where your Giordano link is going right now.


by Montague on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:47:55 PM EST

Furthermore, re: Lloyd de Mause (none / 0)

1994 article in New Yorker: Talk story about Lloyd deMause, 63, a psychohistorian. He is expecting a war. His index of leading indicators--editorial cartoons, magazine covers, Op Ed pieces, newspaper headlines--has been telling him that some blowout is right around the corner, and for a while he thought that Haiti might be it. But instead of a proper incursion America opted for Operation Uphold Democracy, which was not precisely what deMause had in mind. "Now that few of our boys will be sacrified, I suspect we will feel depressed again," he wrote recently. "I wonder if we can find another place to invade in the coming months."

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1994/12 /05/1994_12_05_055_TNY_CARDS_000370793


by Montague on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:54:23 PM EST

Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

has received plenty of threats while campaigning as well.

She has had to have extra secret service detail, in fact in PA at a rally, I watched (as a volunteer) while the SS looked for a specific man.

So - it is not as if Obama is the only one getting threats.


by nikkid on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:17:37 PM EST

while campaigning? try her LIFE (none / 0)

over the last 16 years, she's had to have gotten more death threats than Obama.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:35:01 PM EST
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Re: The DANGER In The HRC Assassination Comments (none / 0)

oh please, just stop with this bizarre and psychotic exageration of the comment. wacko! what danger? someone's going to suddenly get the idea to kill Obama because of this comment, someone that otherwise never considered doing that? this is just ridiculous, even more ridiculous since in no way did she advocate anything violent.


by swissffun on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:26:36 PM EST

Oh, that's stellar. (none / 0)

So if anything ever happens to Obama, I can look forward to listening to half the blogosphere blame Hillary for it? Figures.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:57:33 PM EST

i'd hate to think what would have happened (none / 0)

if the Kos, and all of those guys were around in the '90s. They would have come up with even a bigger "Klinton Kill Kount." check out Dkos, they're already selling the Clinton Chronicles on their site practically by linking it in posts


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:34:07 PM EST
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well what about the DANGER (none / 0)

of your post inciting some CRAZY person to do something CRAZY?????

just talking about IT is scary, the ALL CAPS fright machine goes into high gear

sometimes a fish is just a fish, not a parable of some sort

now, look under your BED...there might be an UNDERLYING cap under there...ooooohhhh

who knows what CAPS lurk in waiting


by blackflag on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:23:28 PM EST

Re: The DANGER In The HRC Assassination Comments (none / 0)

The danger is that Hillary Clinton supporters are getting disgusted with all this gnashing and wailing of teeth as a means of attacking your opponent. Note the silence of supporters on many of these celebratory "she messed up" diaries. This Scarlet Letter syndrome is only further alienating Clinton voters, the silence is deadly, we are slowly dropping out of the process altogether. The slient protest vote is growing, and hapless Obama supporters are stoking the flames. Assasination is the least of the Democratic party's problems. Death of the Democratic party by division and rancour is a much more likely occurence.


by superetendar on Sat May 24, 2008 at 09:27:06 PM EST

Re: The DANGER In The HRC Assassination Comments (none / 0)

But threatening to kill her in the media is OK, huh? After all, she's only a woman.

On CNN, pundit Alex Castellanos said democrats must realize that "it's time to take the family dog to the vet." Matthews' MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann expressed the hope that "somebody will take her into a room--and only he comes out." CNN's Jack Cafferty gleefully floated the specter of Clinton being run over by a flatbed truck.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/l ifestyle/chi-fempower-0518may18,0,433371 4.column
 

These are just some of the statements referenced in the article.


by NY Writer on Sun May 25, 2008 at 12:53:30 AM EST


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